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of fear, like he is going to face the hangman. >> yes, yes. >> we all get it, whether acting, appearance in stage. they say people would rather be in a box at a funeral. >> i totally identify with it. >> i don't get nervous for this stuff, but i get nervous for things you probably don't. >> thank you. >> facing a deadline. thanks for coming on. that's "hardball" for now. "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" starts right now. wisconsin governor scott walker made a promise on the campaign trail, he would not allow the legislature to vote after 10:00 p.m. he said i have two daughters, two teenagers, and i tell them that nothing good happens after midnight. so guess when the vote on the budget bill happened? >> in the state assembly, the lower house passed the bill in a
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rapid fire bill. it happened before democrats knew what hit them. >> we did the important thing, which is to have a vote. >> nearly a third of the assembly didn't get to vote. >> one step closer to a bill that could literally impact the labor movement all across the country. >> now that bill goes to the state senate where the democrats kin to be mia since they left for illinois. >> that so-called budget repair bill will go nowhere unless at least one democratic senator returns. >> we have to find a way to make it comfortable for the 14 state senators to come back. >> until theyç take this backwards budget bill off the table, there's nothing to really go back to. i think the assembly democrats fought a good fight. >> the deadline is here. >> as many as 1500 state workers. >> you don't believe he will go through with the layoff?
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>> no, i don't think he will go through with the layoff. >> they say he has the confidence of a christian with four aces. >> he is treat tg like poker chips. >> is it all on the shoulders, all of it, every last time, on the shoulder of nurses, motor vehicle clerks and other state workers, the whole thing, is it their fault? >> and the protesters aren't budging. >> this is not over. >> it will be interesting saturday. good evening from new york. members of a wisconsin police union are joining other state union workers for a sleep in tonight at the wisconsin state capitol in solidarity after the republican governor tried to close the capitol and kick everyone out. protesters are expected in even larger numbers tomorrow, throughout the standoff, the protesters have been hailed for civility. but there was nothing civil about the way republican leadership in the wisconsin assembly abruptly shut down
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debate on the governor's union busting bill, and called a vote just after 1:00 this morning. [ ind shouting ] >> 51 members voted in favor, 17 against, including four republicans. some of the 38 democratic members didn't have time to vote no. others abstained in protest. republicans immediately began leaving the chamber as boos froç democrats turned into shouts.
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those people in the orange t-shirts may not look like it, but are democratic members of the assembly, wearing those shirts in solidarity with the protesters. the bill now goes to the senate where 14 democratic senators are still in hiding and depriving republicans of a quorum. with two new polls showing wisconsin voters favoring the benefit cuts the state workers have already agreed to, but opposing taking away their collective bargaining rights, the governor went on a statewide campaign, traveling to the districts of several of the 14 senate democrats who are boycotting a vote on this bill. >> it's not just about now, it's about the future. >> the long term commitment. >> commitment to the future. >> i, for one, don't want to pass this problem onto my children. >> to make sure our children -- >> i don't want to pass that onto anybody else's children.
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>> my two sons and your children. >> everybody else's kids to face this problem. >> it is not fair to pass it on to the next generation. >> make sure we don't pass to future generations. >> to face this two, four, six years down the road. >> and the governor held another press conference where he again threatened layoffs if this bill doesn't pass. >> the fact of the matter is if people don't want those layoffs to go forward, the best thing to do is have those state senators come forward, give us the ability to have a vote. >> joining me now, democratic state representative cory mason who opposes the bill, but didn't get to vote. and republican state assembly leader scott suitor who voted yes. cory mason, why didn't you get to vote? >> because they cut off debate. and it's never been done before. we were waiting for our opportunity to speak, but they decided that they'd heard enough. i don't know if they were afraid we were starting to persuade too
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many of their members to agree or didn't want to hear the dissent any more. but theyç took the unusual, unprecedented, unethical, possibly illegal step of shutting down debate, and immediately going for a vote. when they went to that vote, i, like many of my colleagues, stood up, demanding to be recognized so we could be heard. >> scott suitor, you are going to win the vote. you had the votes. why did it turn out so messy. why are you standing here tonight accused by your democratic colleagues of doing something possibly illegal in the conduct of that vote? >> thanks for having me, lawrence. look, nothing done here was illegal, nothing unethical. we went through 63 straight hours of debate on this bill. we had a deal with the assembly democratic leadership to take up a number of amendments. we went through every one of those, 63 long hours. and just because some assembly democrats didn't want to take the vote at all is no reason for us to not have the vote. 63 hours was long enough. we gave their leadership and the
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assembly democrats plenty of warning that we were going to vote that evening. so there was nothing illegal, unethical done here. we followed every single rule of the assembly. while some may not like it and people may not like the outcome, the fact is nothing was done wrong or unethical. for those saying that, it makes for good press, but it isn't reality. >> representative mason, what is the normal practice there? i've never seen anything like this. when we watch the house of representatives in the united states senate, they have a clock on those votes, usually about 15 minutes, and you have sometimes longer, sometimes shorter, but it is an agreed upon time. senators must vote within that amount of time. and they never, never cut off the vote before the time expires. is it true that you only had a few seconds to vote? >> yeah. i mean, it is another unprecedented thing. they've always extended the courtesy to allow the time for all members to be able to push
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their button before they close the vote. but the larger point is, they can you tell us off, and didn't allow us to defend any more. that was the amazing part. they get the opportunity to vote and nobody questioned whether they get to vote at some point.ç but in the middle of the night, to stop people from being able to speak, taking away the minority's right to dissent is disgusting, shutting public hearings for the public to testify on the bill is disgusting. taking away workers rights in the workplace is disgusting. it is a horrible pattern that the new governor is trying to come in, take people's rights. we think he doesn't like how they behaved in november elections. i think he found there is more at stake than that. we heard from democrats, republicans, who were disgusted. you will continue to see how long crowds at the capitol. >> you approved something that approves no bid contracts
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possibly. allows the state to sell any state owned heating, cooling, and power plant, or make contract with a private entity for private operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount, any amount, that the government determines. why would you have a provision like that in this bill? well, lawrence, if you look at the original bill, that may have been the case, but we added in the legislature, made changes to this legislation to give legislative oversight over that process. it improved the process. look, our infrastructure in terms of heating and cooling plants -- they are very, very old. we need to sell some of them in order to make a profit, in order to make sure that we solve this budget deficit. the fact is, they are old. we need to sell -- the governor has been trying to sell these for years, republicans and democrats. streamline the process to allow for private individuals and corporations to come in and buy
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them, and fact is, we can't afford them as taxpayers to repair their infrastructure. this is nothing new and we improved the process in the legislature. that's just another talking point from the democratic minority that is misleading. there was nothing done in the process that was unethical or illegal. >> representative mason, what do you make of a provision that allows this to happen without the solicitation of bids/ç >> look, the governor keeps talking about how he wants to run this state like a business. i don't know any business that would sell off major assets with a no bid, without put tg out forbid for proposal. i think it is great republicans put a rubber stamp provision in so their controlled finance committee will rubber stamp whatever company that the governor wants to sell it to, but the fact is, they are still trying to sell this off without taking bids. it is wrong, it is a bad deal for taxpayers, shouldn't have done it in the middle of the night. it is inexcusable. >> representative suitor,
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according to polls out today, you are now legislating against the will of wisconsin. 77% agree on the financial elements of what you want the unions to give back, and the unions already agreed to that. in other words, there is no disagreement left in wisconsin over the issue of what the unions should be willing to give back, including the unions. they agree with that. the 56% of wisconsin disagrees with you on eliminating the union's ability to effectively collectively bargain with the state. why would you now be negotiating against the will of your state? >> first of all, i don't know which polls you're looking at. polls i get from my constituent back home and that in terms of talking to the people we represent say something quite different. they believe we're doing the right thing. we are not eliminating
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collective bargaining. while some union heads in washington, d.c. and las vegas may not agree, it is the right thing for taxpayers. look, we're asking for reasonable concessions. not all unions have agreed to this. this has been a moving target for them. the time is now. we have run out of time. the question is whether we do massive layoffs or pass this bill. we're not laying off anyone, no one loses healthcare or pension and no one loses their jobs under our plan. that's a better deal than thousands of layoffs of public workers. >> cory mason, your senate s(have been working in the poll. that number moved from 52% to 56% over the course of a week. you seem to be picking up support for the position that collective bargaining should be preserved for the unions. >> yeah. we've known for more than 50 years in this state, this is a right that's enshrined in our
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statutes that gives workers at the workplace the right to collectively bargain. so, you know, clearly the senators have no other choice but to boycott if they're going to represent the rights of their constituent. after the behavior, the shameful behavior at the assembly, i don't know what choice those senators would have but to stay away until they are guaranteed they are going to be treated fairly and instead of rapping through budget bills in the middle of the night. >> 63 hours. >> there is no expiration on free speech. >> 63 hours, cory. >> you don't get to decide -- you don't get to decide when -- you cannot take away our right to disent. >> we didn't. >> you did that last night. >> we did 63 hours.
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>> you're trying to silence me now. you silenced me on the floor last night. you silence the workers at the workplace, and -- >> there were hours of public hearings, cory. >> we have to leave it there. i want you both to come back. cory mason, thank you very much for joining us. scott suitor from the wisconsin statehouse, thank you also very much for joining us. >> thank you. republican national committee says president obama is joining forces with the unions and actually ruining the economy. but progressives say the president is keeping the union fight at arm's lent. former governor jennifer granholm joins us. and a man at a town hall for republicans, congressman paul broun asked when will the president be shot, and the congressman laughs. and brewed the coffee. we heated the bathwater
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as the rnc goes after
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president obama tying him to the union agenda,ç the media arm, x news, declares the political discord in wisconsin union busting. and a man at a town hall asks when is going to shoot obama. it took republican congressman paul broun three days to figure out he should condemn what he heard.
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seven of those ten donate to republicans. >> correct. >> the other three that remain of the top ten. >> unions. >> they all donate to democrats and are all unions. >> right. >> bust the unions, it is over. to pretend it is about a fiscal crisis in the state of wisconsin is mullç arch ee. >> another moment of clarity from shepherd smith from fox news on the campaign politics steering the situation in wisconsin. republicans reinforced smith's point when they released this ad attacking the man they refuse to refer to as president. >> barack obama is preparing a billion campaign. with his record, he'll spend every penny. families are struggling. state budgets have run dry, and the federal debt is skyrocketing. but obama and the union bosses are standing in the way of economic reform, intimidating taxpayers, leaving classrooms empty. they made this mess, let's clean it up.
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stop obama and his union bosses today. the republican national committee is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> meanwhile, president obama seems to be doing all he can to avoid the connection to unions made in that ad. he met with a dozen democratic governors today. afterwards, they asked martin o'malley if they discussed the union unrest spreading from wisconsin to other states. >> no, not really. we were focused on things we can do together to create jobs, like coming together to advocate to build infrastructure. we talked about the things to cut through red tape, open in innovation when it comes to medical devices, new cures. fuel the biotech economy. we didn't talk about whatever it is they're doing in wisconsin today. >> whatever it is they're doing in wisconsin. that's just one of the omissions that has some arguing the
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president isn't fulfilling a 2007 campaign promise to put on a comfortable pair of shoes and walk that picket line with workers denied collective bargaining rights. today, a fox news reporter asked press secretary jay carney at the white house about that promise. >> the president has a variety of ways to communicate his views on various matters. andç i would just say that whatever shoes he's wearing, he is always standing with america's working men and women, and america's middle class. >> joining me now, former michigan democratic governor jennifer granholm. thanks for joining me tonight. >> lawrence, thanks for having me on. >> governor, i want you to listen to that last line of that republican attack ad against president obama one more time. >> stop obama and his union bosses today. the republican national committee is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> the republican party is saying that the president of the
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united states has bosses, that the union bosses this president around, the unions boss him around. does that sound to you like they are consciously or subconsciously deliver the racist message that of course, of course a black man can't be the real boss. >> well, i hadn't thought about the racial overtones, but honestly, lawrence, i think that ad is a bad ad. i mean, when you think about this, and i think people are starting to wake up to it, that the union really represents the little guy, and the ability of the janitors in the capitol to band together to be able to have some strength in negotiating. i mean, this is not like some guy with a cigar over in a corner, this is your neighbor. these are everyday people. and when you think about the wage disparity, the income
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disparity in this nation, this growing area where the middle class used to be, it is no wonder everyday citizens are supporting the right of these workers to band together. and i think this ad is going to back fire. i just -- i really think especially because union members are democrats and republicans, it sounds again like the republicans are standing on the side of the billionaires, rather than the everyday citizen. >> when you have shepherd smith making that case on fox news, it has to be a pretty definitive case. >>2i hope he keeps his job. >> he speaks his mind. he has been doing that. >> i appreciate that. can i say one other thing, lawrence, about this, because i think what's really important in what's going on in wisconsin is that going to the legislature when you have an all republican legislature and saying my way or the highway and i am not even going to negotiate, but i am going to take away the rights of the everyday citizen, instead of allowing them to come to the table, all of that is the lazy
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governor's way. it is a lazy governor's way of getting what you need to get done. he is saying this is all about the future. what he's saying is he doesn't want to exert the effort to go to the bargaining table. i am telling you, lawrence, as the governor of michigan, we cut more out of state government than any state in the country in partnership with the unions. yeah, we had to go to the table and negotiate concessions. when i hear these guys saying they put in a no bid contract, it was the unions that came to us and said we've got to stop the no bid practices, and we'll help to identify the contracts that are wasteful, and they helped to identify $1.1 billion worth of savings in michigan. so toville phi people that could be coming to you with savings is a completely, a, lazy, and wrong headed way of doing business. >> sticking in no bid contract in the middle of a so-called budget fight. >> what is that all about. is there somebody looking to buy
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it? why wouldn't you put it out to bid, unless they have somebody they are steering it to to get a good deal. i don't know enough about it, but, you know, mayan ten a went up when i heard no bid contracts. >> the union leaders have spoken about what they would like president obama to do now. let's listen to what jim hoffa had to say on this show last night. >> we are urging him to speak out, whether he goes it or not, it is up to him. we don't control what he does. certainly we're aware of what he said, and we need his support now. >> the union boss is urging the president to do something that the president doesn't do, he didn't do any more speaking out. don't we have the proof of who really is the boss çhere? >> it is just ridiculous. it is a ridiculous argument by the republican national committee, and hoffa validates that, but it is absurd to think obama is a puppet of the unions. he made it very clear where he stood on this with respect to
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collective bargaining rights of workers. it is just i think another example of overreaching that i think honestly is going to back fire. >> it is invaluable to hear from an experienced governor on this. jennifer granholm, former democratic governor of michigan. thank you very much for joining us. >> appreciate it. thanks, lawrence. ahead. newt gingrich, the man who's been married three times rises in defense of marriage in tonight's "rewrite." [ male announcer ] this is lara. her morning begins with arthritis pain. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills.
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able to beat utah, which as reported here is also vying to be the first one with an official state gun. in georgia tuesday night, a man stood up at republican congressman paul broun's town hall meeting with a simple question. quote, who's gonna shoot obama? according to witness mark farmer went to the meeting to ask about social security reform, congressman broun laughed. and then made no effort to correct the questioner on what constitutes proper behavior, or to in any way distance himself from such hate filled language. an article in the athens banner herald reported that broun addressed the question by saying, "the thing is, i know there's a lot of frustration with this president." we're going to have an election next year. hopefully we'll elect somebody that's a conservative, limited
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government president who will sign a bill to repeal and replace obamacare ". a press secretary released this statement today. i was stunned by the question, and chose not to dig any phi it with a response. therefore, at that moment, i moved onto the next person with a question. after the event, my office took action with the appropriate authorities. i deeply regret that this incident happened at all. furthermore, i condemn all statements made in sincerity or jest that threaten or suggest use of violence against the president of the united states or any other public official. such rhetoric cannot and will not be tolerated. but here's the rhetoric that congressman broun can tolerate. mr. president, you don't believe in the constitution, you believe in socialism. congressman broun tweeted that during the president's state of the union address, which he did
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not see fit to attend. here is the rhetoric that broun tolerated about president obama's proposal to create a civilian national service corps. that's exactly what hitler did in nazi germany and exactly what the soviet union did, when he is proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him that is as strong as the u.s. military, he's showing me signs of being marxist. broun didn't just tolerate what broun has also said he doesn't know if the president of the united states is a citizen or a christian. but still, he wants to claim that he was stunned. just stunned by the question who's going to shoot obama. who's going to shoot hitler? a perfectly good and urgent question in world war ii. congressman broun cannot go
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around his district pretending that barack obama is doing, quote, exactly what hitler did, and then be surprised by the question who's going to shoot obama. joining me now is msnbc analyst, melissa harris-perry, professor at princeton university. thanks very much for joining us tonight, melissa. >> absolutely. thanks for having me. >> couple of crazy things going on here. first, back to arizona. at this short distance from the gabby giffords shooting, for them to be talking about what's our official state gun going to be, and let's see if we can do this faster than utah can do it, politicians in those states just completely oblivious to what happened in arizona? >> they are clearly not object live yus. certainly lawmakers in arizona are not oblivious. let's pause for a moment and ask why in the middle of the kind of
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fiscal crisis that states are facing as a general problem that this would even be an important agenda item. why are we talking about, you know, an official state anything, other than an official state way to address the economic crisis and the joblessness crisis in arizona and particularly the real estate crisis. they are not oblivious. this is clearly about setting up a set of symbolic attempts to demonstrate that the republican party is with and in solidarity with exactly those elements of the right that are at this point challenging the very core nature of our federal government. >> melissa, i think anti-obama rhetoric has really traveled some since theç campaign. if someone at a john mccain for president campaign event had asked who's going to shoot obama, i have absolutely no doubt that john mccain would have given them hell before asking the secret service to
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detain them for questioning. in fact, let's look at how senator john mccain handled questions about senator obama on the campaign trail. >> we're scared of an obama presidency. >> i have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared as president of the united states. now, i just -- now, look. >> i got to ask you a question. i do not believe i can trust obama. i have read about him, and he's not -- he's an arab. >> no, ma'am. >> no? >> no, ma'am. no, ma'am. he's a decent family man, citizen, that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. >> we've come a long way since then. it is hard for me to imagine any republican today, including john
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mccain today, saying what john mccain said on the campaign trail. what's happened in our politics since barack obama took the oath of office that these kinds of questions cannot be handled with any kind of simple decency by republicans? >> it is really kind of disheartening and exhausting, isn't it? there's the sense that somehow there are no adults in the room any more. and the fact that john mccain responded in that way, and i remember that incident very well, and i remember that in many ways, senator mccain's response could be said in contrast of his running mate at the time who often did not respond with the same kind of adult, reasonable response, which is look, he is, in fact, a citizen, and then when questions about his religion came up as well, that he is, in fact, a christian, although that should be irrelevant, but certainly his citizenship is completely relevant, but thatç we have de
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disagreements, and in this country we address deep ideological disagreements through elections, not through assassinations. there's a kind of, for me, the sense that i am wanting to be in a country where it is okay to disagree, to disagree vee emptily, loudly, maybe in ways that are rude, but we have to begin with some basic assumptions, and if the 2012 election cycle is not going to begin with the basic assumption that president obama is a citizen, and that he is the legitimate president of the united states, and that anything said about his assassination is -- it should be dealt with as an imminent threat, i mean, it's just we can't move forward as a country to address all the problems we have. >> princeton university professor, msnbc analyst, melissa harris-perry. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. on an l.a. radio show this morning, charlie sheen continued to rail against his bosses at
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courts. the president is also being repeatedly and falsely accused of refusing to enforce the law. the latest offender, newt gingrich. >> he swore an oath on the bible to become president that he would uphold the constitution and enforce the laws of the united states. he's not a one person supreme court. the idea that we now have the rule of obama instead of the rule of law should frighten everybody. i believe the house republicans next week should pass a resin strukting the president to enforce the law and obey his own constitutional oath which he took on taking office. his job is to enforce the rule of law, and for us to start replacing the rule of law with the rule of obama is a very dangerous precedent. >> and also chiming in, the always rewritable glenn beck.
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>> now he says he is not going to enforce the law. he has made congress irrelevant when it comes to the defense of marriage act. he says we're not even going to defend this any more. wait a minute, that's not constitutional. your justice department has to enforce the law. that is the law. you don't like it, then change the law. but what he's saying is we're not going to enforce that one any more. you have the real die hard christians also that are now saying he's not really a friend of marriage. >> beck and gingrich say the president isn't going to enforce the law, not going to enforce it. now, these two constitutional scholars who forgot to go to law school are very, very wrong. the obama administration has said very specifically that they will continue to enforce the law. the announcement from the justice department is very clear on speaking only to the part of the law at issue here, section 3, stating the department will
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not defend the constitutionality of section 3 of the defense of marriage act as applied to same sex married couples. section 3 of the defense of marriage act will continue to remain in effect unless congress repeals it or there is a final judicial finding that strikes it down, and the executive branch will continue to enforce the law. so the law will be enforced until the courts or congress take it off the books, but the justice department will no longer argue its constitutionality in appeals courts, something that the justice department has chosen to do many times in the çpast. to beck's point that the president really isn't a friend of marriage, he could have something there. barack obama has only had the one marriage. glenn beck has had two. newt gingrich has had three. so how much of a friend of marriage can barack obama really
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we are at war. that is what actor charlie sheen said this afternoon during yet another radio interview. the interview he gave yesterday was the final straw for cbs and warner brothers. they cancelled production on this year's remaining episodes of the hit comedy "two and a half men." today, sheen again slammed the executive producers of the series, and insisted he is clean and sober after being hospitalized, going through rehab at his home last month, following a 911 call in which he was described as highly intoxicated. he spoke withç pat o'brien on x
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sports radio. >> if you want to meet me for one of my workouts at 5:00 a.m., you know, you're going to find out that smoking cocaine does not fit into that snapshot. there's no time for that now. >> what happened with "two and a half men" men, what really happened here? >> i don't know, man, they kept getting up in my grill, telling me how to live my personal life, i said back off, back off, and they wouldn't. i'm the type of guy that doesn't hassle anybody. i kept asking for that respect and i couldn't get it. i couldn't get it. these guys are a couple of aa nazis, and blatant hypocrites in that regard. >> talking about chuck lorre? >> chuck and lee, these guys that do not practice what they preach. it is so transparent and so sad. it's just gross. it has been a toxic environment for eight years, and i've felt like an unwelcome relative being given cold coffee at 9:00 every night, and i just got tired of
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it. >> what do you say to the people on your show that may be losing their jobs? >> i say be patient, get focused. we are at war, and there are ways to deal with these clowns, and take all their money. that's what i think. i was a get along guy for eight years. i put five billion in the studio's pocket, i put a half bill in chuck's pocket. so this is the freaking thanks i get? this is the level of gratitude i get? >> sheen is spending time with two women in the bahamas, went on to refer to the show as directive and a puke fest. sounds like he may be making the worst mistake an actor can make, reading the reviews. thanks for joining me, sharon. >> hi. >> cbs and warner brothers have been through a lot with charlie over the years. why did they pull the plug now? >> yeah. i would consider what charlie sheen did yesterday the equivalent of suicide by cop.
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he basically went out and chased after the people thatç pay his salary, his boss, he insulted him multiple times. he started with radio talk show, then went on to tmz, and really didn't have much choice. he just really went too far. >> he is right about the amount of money he's made. i don't think there's an actor that made more money for warner brothers television, the billions and half billion, hundreds of millions for the creator of the show. that's how much money moves in these kinds of shows, so he is the most valuable actor the warner brothers studio has, the most valuable actor cbs has. this is a very, very difficult decision for them, isn't it? >> it should, you could think that it might be, but they've been living with the humiliation of having to deal with charlie sheen's private behavior going public for years you could say, and particularly since say october of last year when he
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ended up at the plaza hotel naked and ranting, found naked and ranting in a suite with somebody tied up in the closet. so that really was not the kind of pr that you want, and they endured that and several more weekend binges. they came back and said we care about charlie, forget about the show, what matters is that he gets healthy. charlie was giving them the finger every time. he was acting in his attitude just like your hearing now, get out of my grill basically. and what warner brothers has been saying through clenched teeth the past couple months, he hasn't breached his contract. he is showing up to work. yes, we are embarrassed by this, yes, we think he is on a downward spiral and probably won't end well, but what can we do about it. but then when he went this far, his rant was borderline anti-semitic against chuck lorre
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who he is going towards sort of mel gibson territory and then sort of pulled back from that, he called him a maggot, he used kind of very fractured language that you could say okay, this pull the plug, because you just don't know what's next. if he'll do that all day long, what else might he do. >> we've seen this before, robert downey jr. was in at least this much trouble on a personal level and as much danger, and he pulled out. >> and he got clean, too. >> yeah. is there any hope among those that know charlie that there's hope for him to pull out of this? the people who know and care about charlie are not necessarily different from the people who are angry at him right now. i don't think that his father, martin sheen, who was one of the main people who intervened to get him to go to rehab a few
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weeks ago is somebody that's close to him right now. i believe charlie sheen is in the bahamas with a couple of women as he's said. i don't think his managers that care about him or his family, brother, father, are people who are giving him advisor that he's taking advice from now. so i think they kind of look at him in a place where he's fairly isolated. and look at the way he's communicating. he's like a serial bulemic ranter. you can't basically turn anywhere without finding charlie sheen ranting yet again about chuck lorre and how fantastic he is and how badly he's been wronged. >> his father, brother, family members do want to be close to him, but as happens so often in these cases, the person in trouble pushes them away. sharon waxman from, thank you. >> thank you. i want to give the last word to charlie's father martin sheen who discussed him in an
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